Podcast: FIRE Philosophy – Lessons from the World’s Greatest Cult

In our first episode of 2021, we discuss the mindset and thought process inside the FIRE movement.  Let’s be honest, the FIRE movement has turned into somewhat of a cult!  But it’s a positive, empowering and help-each-other-prosper kind of cult.

Our philosophy, values, and beliefs are often very different from the rest of society.  In this show, Pat and I share our thoughts on how exactly we’re able to achieve results that other people find hard to believe.

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Discussion points…

  • We think differently from ‘normal’ people  (04:31)
  • We see money as a game to win  (11:20)
  • Time is our most valuable resource  (13:49)
  • A high payback job is better than a high paying job  (16:10)
  • Material goods and status are empty goals  (19:42)
  • A happy life doesn’t actually cost much at all  (25:26)
  • We believe saving is what really creates wealth  (28:49)
  • We must take 100% responsibility for our own situation  (32:11)
  • There is no substitute for taking action  (34:52)
  • Our individual choices do make a difference  (36:35)


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  1. Love the philosophical discussion. I think philosophy plays a big part in the FI community because it’s so intrinsically linked to our values as humans. And knowing our values is so empowering!

    1. Oh yeah absolutely! Our values are one of those things that are sometimes hard to pin down because it’s internal and we don’t spend a lot of time thinking about it. But super important to consider. I (now) love philosophy, and even tho the word philosophy sounds kinda boring, it matters because our personal values are why we do what we do every single day!

  2. I found this discussion interesting. I once explained FIRE to someone I work with. I summarised as follows. Most people believe you should save 10% of your income and when you get to 65 you can retire. FIRE is about saving closer to 60% – 70% of this income, investing this money and retiring before 65. Each persons FIRE journey is different and they adjust these variables to suit how much they want to work, values and desired lifestyle. This makes sense to me and the FI group but you cant change some peoples mindset. My coworker’s response was who cares, YOLO and I could die before 65 so this is a waste of time. I never brought it up again.

    1. Haha the YOLO crowd crack me up. I never understand their viewpoint. Here’s how my conversation goes with ppl like that:

      Them: You only live once!
      Me: ….Yeah okay… so why do you wanna spend most of that life at work?

      Usually it then drifts into some nonsense about them thinking they’d be ‘bored’ without work, even though they spend half the time moaning about work and waiting for the weekend. Either that or they just like spending their money on things which makes their lives more ‘fun’ outside work (to justify giving up so much time for a paycheck).

      1. “Me: ….Yeah okay… so why do you wanna spend most of that life at work?”

        Brilliant response! Mind if I copy that one?

  3. Hi Boys ,
    No mindset no freedom !!! ….simple . Great Podcast especially for the newbies out there 🤗
    Now on a completely different subject , would love to hear your thoughts on cryptocurrency in a future podcast .

    Take care and happy investing 😎😁

    1. Cheers mate!
      Our thoughts on ‘other asset classes’ are coming very soon – next 1 or 2 episodes. We do cover crypto and gold etc, but it’s probably not what ppl want to hear lol.

      1. I have a feeling more editing may be required when Pat starts talking about Cryptocurrency!

        I think the majority of the fire crowd don’t give crypto and/or commodities a second look (myself included), I look forward to the discussion either way!

        1. Haha yes that could be the case 😉
          You’re right I think most of us don’t really consider it, though there is no shortage of crypto fans out there!

      2. Hi Dave ,
        Fantastic !!! ….hey you can’t please everyone, however it never hurts to have an open mind and different perspectives…..looking forward to the up coming podcast .


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